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Paul Hemmings wrote:
Ben@Plymouth wrote:
Just trying to work this out again as a real life example:

I had Auba start on good so 70 mins
By the end of the cup game he has -20
He starts the league game with +10 given the 30 mins bonus
I had 4 RE periods and a luxury coach so 125mins (25 x 4 + 25) + 30 mins = 155 mins
He played the whole league games so 155-90 = 65 mins 
So he is now poor.

Next week he will be:

65mins + 30 mins = 95mins so he can play the league game but will then be awful.

The 4 rest periods and a luxury coach would then give him 155 mins for the week after. He couldn't play both the cup game and league games for the whole time.

Essentially need to rest him this week so he gets back to superb.

The only bit I can't work out is why he got tired late on in the league game... He should have had 65 mins left, unless I haven't got this correct here?

Auba starts on GOOD so 70-90=-20 minutes +100rest=80 ( no bonus as over29 ) for the league game=-10+25sun+25sun+25lux for nextweek=65 POOR he is actually on 59 at the moment so must have had an extra 6 minutes of stamina drain during the 2 matches.
Thanks Paul. 

Given the training essentially happens after the game my understanding then is even if I REST him he won't last the full 90 in the league game or does the REST mean he will have full stamina for this game?

Thanks

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Andy@Schalke wrote:
gary@chelsea wrote:
gary@chelsea wrote:
Paul Hemmings wrote:
Lindelof started on high ( 90-99 ) league +30 -90 = ( 30-39 ) +25+25+25 = 99 high
Zouma started on good ( 70-89 ) league +30 -90 = ( 10-29 ) +75 = ( 85-99 ) still on good
James started on good ( 70-89 )  youth +30 -90 = ( 10-29 ) +75 = ( 85-99 )  still on good

if you need it to be more precise then I could add an option to replace the words with actual nu 

Quick question , i cannot seem to get Mason mounts QU skill to maximum , i stuck in 3 QU training slots but it has not helped, am i missing a specific coach or building that is affecting this?
Hi Paul

Could you quickly answer this one for me please also player on poor form what is best?

Gary, it could be that he's maxed out his basic skills? Although this only happens when CR is less than PT - not sure if Mount is 9999 or 9997? Happened to Havertz recently, leaving him on 0qu and 0ta, with no hope of increasing until he moved from 9997 to 9999.
Andy.
Arrgh super Kai Havertz on his way to Chelsea....in real life that is!
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Phil, have you seen the cup draw?
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Tom@Charlton wrote:
Phil, have you seen the cup draw?
Yeah.... normally that clash is saved for later in the season ha! 

I guess one of us will be in the League Cup this year  lol!
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Phil@Watford wrote:
Tom@Charlton wrote:
Phil, have you seen the cup draw?
Yeah.... normally that clash is saved for later in the season ha! 

I guess one of us will be in the League Cup this year  lol!
an early cup exit for one of you …..then again I am not guaranteed to beat Burnley lol
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gary@chelsea wrote:
Phil@Watford wrote:
Tom@Charlton wrote:
Phil, have you seen the cup draw?
Yeah.... normally that clash is saved for later in the season ha! 

I guess one of us will be in the League Cup this year  lol!
an early cup exit for one of you …..then again I am not guaranteed to beat Burnley lol
If you get knocked out early  you get Drawn into the League Cup..... so always a second chance of Glory.. 

I know this cause I got knocked out by Tranmere 2 seasons ago lol!
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Ben@Plymouth wrote:
Tom@Charlton wrote:
That makes sense but doesn’t it conflict this? 


[size=31]Stamina recouperates during training which happens after the games are run and prepares your players for next weeks games, it doesnt affect this weeks game Tom. 2 rest periods and a luxury coach would give you +75 minutes boost during training. [/size]
I have a feeling during a double game week might be different?

I went 4 RE periods plus a luxury coach for these weeks which might be overkill?

Hopefully Paul can confirm though
I went 4 RE too.
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Tom@Charlton wrote:
On another note, are other managers getting a lot of injuries at the minute?

I had all three TMs go off during my midweek games due to injury, as well as other players?
Not a lot, but 6wks at a time.
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I’ve had Fabián Ruiz and Alba out and now Fabian is back I have Saul and Oyarzabal out so not actually managed to field my first choice midfield yet. In my last game I also had Navas injured in the warm up so Onana played although it was only a minor injury. At Nacional my latest is Suarez ..... for 9 weeks. So seems to be impacting everyone. I know Phil and Ben have also had injury issues.
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Yep I have a few out this game and also some poor stamina - chance for the second string to play the cup game I reckon ...
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Yeah, Cuadrado getting game time for me. Just finding a place in the parking lot for his zimmerframe.
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Do you have to write the next game bonus in every few turns? I do it then every couple of turns it’s says player was blah blah blah next game bonus wards against complacency, surely once it’s written I. It should stay set for season 

Anyone else get this?
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The NG and NC bonus need writing in every week, so I thought.

Obviously only the NC when you have a cup game, if you want to.
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gary@chelsea wrote:
Do you have to write the next game bonus in every few turns? I do it then every couple of turns it’s says player was blah blah blah next game bonus wards against complacency, surely once it’s written I. It should stay set for season 

Anyone else get this?
You have to put it in every turn that you want to use it.
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Cheers lads, that’s answered my question 👍
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Tom@Charlton wrote:
The NG and NC bonus need writing in every week, so I thought.

Obviously only the NC when you have a cup game, if you want to.
This is correct, however you still have the other bonuses you need to ensure are correct. 

WB-10%
CB-10%
EB-10%
GS-5%
CU-5%
AU-5%
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Phil@Watford wrote:
Tom@Charlton wrote:
The NG and NC bonus need writing in every week, so I thought.

Obviously only the NC when you have a cup game, if you want to.
This is correct, however you still have the other bonuses you need to ensure are correct. 

WB-10%
CB-10%
EB-10%
GS-5%
CU-5%
AU-5%
GB-5%

These ones only need setting once right?
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Tom@Charlton wrote:
Phil@Watford wrote:
Tom@Charlton wrote:
The NG and NC bonus need writing in every week, so I thought.

Obviously only the NC when you have a cup game, if you want to.
This is correct, however you still have the other bonuses you need to ensure are correct. 

WB-10%
CB-10%
EB-10%
GS-5%
CU-5%
AU-5%
GB-5%

These ones only need setting once right?
Yeah, just set once. Sorry if caused any confusion.
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Ben@Plymouth wrote:
Paul Hemmings wrote:
Ben@Plymouth wrote:
Just trying to work this out again as a real life example:

I had Auba start on good so 70 mins
By the end of the cup game he has -20
He starts the league game with +10 given the 30 mins bonus
I had 4 RE periods and a luxury coach so 125mins (25 x 4 + 25) + 30 mins = 155 mins
He played the whole league games so 155-90 = 65 mins 
So he is now poor.

Next week he will be:

65mins + 30 mins = 95mins so he can play the league game but will then be awful.

The 4 rest periods and a luxury coach would then give him 155 mins for the week after. He couldn't play both the cup game and league games for the whole time.

Essentially need to rest him this week so he gets back to superb.

The only bit I can't work out is why he got tired late on in the league game... He should have had 65 mins left, unless I haven't got this correct here?

Auba starts on GOOD so 70-90=-20 minutes +100rest=80 ( no bonus as over29 ) for the league game=-10+25sun+25sun+25lux for nextweek=65 POOR he is actually on 59 at the moment so must have had an extra 6 minutes of stamina drain during the 2 matches.
Thanks Paul. 

Given the training essentially happens after the game my understanding then is even if I REST him he won't last the full 90 in the league game or does the REST mean he will have full stamina for this game?

Thanks

Ben

Paul has just very helpfully explained this to me so thought best to share. 

Essentially whilst training happens after the games (i.e you play the week with the TS outlined in the turn) the stamina is worked out day by day and is cumulative.

So, as far as I see it - as an example – if you REST a player from training he will pick up stamina as follows:

2 RE sessions on Monday,
2 RE sessions on Tuesday
2 RE sessions on Wednesday
If he plays on Wednesday night for a cup game for 90 mins then he loses 90 minutes of stamina accumulated.
2 RE sessions on Thursday 
2 RE sessions on Friday
then plays with whatever stamina he has left for the league game.

This means you could add RE sessions for the squad on a Monday and Tuesday which helps pick up stamina for mid-week games and then again Thursday or Friday.

Hope useful!
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Thanks for sharing Ben...
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