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Cheers Paul, looking forward to reading it.
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Thanks Paul.

Just a quick question - as I digest my turn – in my Plymouth games I lost a lot of tackles either easily or effortlessly despite the players having 9 TS. In terms of reading the match report, does that mean that essentially there is something going on which is reducing the players' TS to below 9?

Its people like Odegaard, Silva etc who all have 9's for key skills in one on one matchups. For example:

From the kickoff the ball is passed to ODEGAARD who sees BERNARDO and GUNDOGAN moving forward, then doesnt have an opening so turns and plays it to GUNDOGAN who knocks the ball accurately short to BERNARDO who is effortlessly dispossessed in a flash by  DEST who dribbles out of midfield into attack, then on the edge of the box, knocks a short easy ball to VALVERDE who is unluckily dispossessed by PHILLIPS


My assumption would be both of these challenges would be unluckily tackled given I am presuming Silva and Dest have 9's and Phillips and Valvere do?

Just trying to work out everything here with my team.

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Apologies one other question with Stamina.


Had lots of players showing very weird stamina changes this week...


5207 14 MARTIN ODEGAARD  22 high 99   99 129 129 129 129 129   +30 +0  159 -10    20  50  80 110   FT  +0  110 -** DRI-10 -69    -9  15       15 poor -84 or


5781  1 JULIAN WEIGL              25 high 99   99  99  99  99  99  99   +30 +0  129 -43   -13  17  47  77   FT  +0   77 -** TRY-10 -73   -13  17       17 poor -82

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Odegaard plays the Cup match starting on 159 due to RE periods and ends the match -10 - ending the week -84!
Weigl enters the Cup match on 129 and ends on -43, ending the league game on -73!


Both are under 30 and I have numerous RE periods and a Luxury coach.


It's even happened with GKs as well

E949 12 EMILIANO MARTINEZ         28 high 99   99  99  99  99  99  99   +30 +0  129 -43   -13  17  47  77   FT  +0   77 -**        -93   -33  -3        0 poor -99

It's happened across the teams tbh and left almost everyone who has played on poor stamina for this week.

Not sure if anyone else has had the same?
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I think I have the same issue as Ben on stamina.
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Yes, something fishy for me re stamina, and the endlessly losing tackles problem too in the league match and more than usual in the cup match too...

Also, seem to be getting 2 injuries per week - anybody else?
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Think my stamina may have a few issues as well
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Andy@Schalke wrote:
Yes, something fishy for me re stamina, and the endlessly losing tackles problem too in the league match and more than usual in the cup match too...

Also, seem to be getting 2 injuries per week - anybody else?
I’ve noticed that more and more as re-reading my turn.

Kalvin Phillips loses 6 tackles - most in my game against Chelsea - despite having no issues with anything I can see.

Silva and Reece James and Van De Beek against Chillwell, mostly easily or effortlessly

Gaz - not questioning the result btw, I think you had it with Bakayoko from what I can see as well, just trying to work out what is wrong with Plymouth…

Have had a lot of injuries too Andy
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Just a hunch, but could it be related to FAS/FAP tactic paul?

In German leagues, FAS/FAP tactics did quite poorly...

Other leagues anybody?
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Gaz beat me 4-1 playing FAB. I was playing Tic Tac.

Madrid won 3-0 playing FAS
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Probably not that then!
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Andy@Schalke wrote:
Probably not that then!
Although in game against Roma there were a few easily and effortlessly tackled which surprised me when you looked at the matchups of the two players competing.
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Not sure if anyone else uses MP in training but it would appear it cost 80 STAMINA this week, in previous weeks it cost 10 STAMINA ?

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Nope - that’s not the issue I’ve had causing it tbh
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ok, from what i can tell... 
players who played in the midweek cup match expended 150mins
(although 8 of the 11 only for me) 
also, players who played in your first team league match expended 180mins
(all 11 players for me) 

perhaps all the losses of possession are affected by the players being knackered?
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Andy@Schalke wrote:
ok, from what i can tell... 
players who played in the midweek cup match expended 150mins
(although 8 of the 11 only for me) 
also, players who played in your first team league match expended 180mins
(all 11 players for me) 

perhaps all the losses of possession are affected by the players being knackered?
That's a good thought, especially if Gaz's players didn't play mid-week here! 

Gaz, I vaguely remember you saying you played a reserve team in the Cup?

If you didn't would have expected it to even still given all the players would have been knackered across the teams!

I do have RE periods so I think the Plymouth players started with some stamina though which is why I think there is still something not quite right here.
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Ben@Plymouth wrote:
Andy@Schalke wrote:
ok, from what i can tell... 
players who played in the midweek cup match expended 150mins
(although 8 of the 11 only for me) 
also, players who played in your first team league match expended 180mins
(all 11 players for me) 

perhaps all the losses of possession are affected by the players being knackered?
That's a good thought, especially if Gaz's players didn't play mid-week here! 

Gaz, I vaguely remember you saying you played a reserve team in the Cup?

If you didn't would have expected it to even still given all the players would have been knackered across the teams!

I do have RE periods so I think the Plymouth players started with some stamina though which is why I think there is still something not quite right here.
Apart from Zouma and Kepa it was reserves along with 4 RE periods and quite a few have come back as good or fair having played 1 game
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I’m not sure it’s a FAS only problem on stamina. Trying to understand exactly where the gaps are versus other weeks.
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gary@chelsea wrote:
Ben@Plymouth wrote:
Andy@Schalke wrote:
ok, from what i can tell... 
players who played in the midweek cup match expended 150mins
(although 8 of the 11 only for me) 
also, players who played in your first team league match expended 180mins
(all 11 players for me) 

perhaps all the losses of possession are affected by the players being knackered?
That's a good thought, especially if Gaz's players didn't play mid-week here! 

Gaz, I vaguely remember you saying you played a reserve team in the Cup?

If you didn't would have expected it to even still given all the players would have been knackered across the teams!

I do have RE periods so I think the Plymouth players started with some stamina though which is why I think there is still something not quite right here.
Apart from Zouma and Kepa it was reserves along with 4 RE periods and quite a few have come back as good or fair having played 1 game
Might be the issue then here with why I lost so many one on ones - though most started the game on 70 stamina here so wouldn't have expected this to kick in till later on here...
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The stamina report is incorrect for this week so please ignore the figures shown, there was a power cut part of the way through which skewed the numbers on the report but only on the report which is produced just prior to printing. Game stamina was all correct.
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Thanks for clearing up Paul
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Ben@Plymouth wrote:
Thanks Paul.

Just a quick question - as I digest my turn – in my Plymouth games I lost a lot of tackles either easily or effortlessly despite the players having 9 TS. In terms of reading the match report, does that mean that essentially there is something going on which is reducing the players' TS to below 9?

Its people like Odegaard, Silva etc who all have 9's for key skills in one on one matchups. For example:

From the kickoff the ball is passed to ODEGAARD who sees BERNARDO and GUNDOGAN moving forward, then doesnt have an opening so turns and plays it to GUNDOGAN who knocks the ball accurately short to BERNARDO who is effortlessly dispossessed in a flash by  DEST who dribbles out of midfield into attack, then on the edge of the box, knocks a short easy ball to VALVERDE who is unluckily dispossessed by PHILLIPS


My assumption would be both of these challenges would be unluckily tackled given I am presuming Silva and Dest have 9's and Phillips and Valvere do?

Just trying to work out everything here with my
Same here, tackles and stamina oddities.
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Dave@Villa wrote:
Ben@Plymouth wrote:
Thanks Paul.

Just a quick question - as I digest my turn – in my Plymouth games I lost a lot of tackles either easily or effortlessly despite the players having 9 TS. In terms of reading the match report, does that mean that essentially there is something going on which is reducing the players' TS to below 9?

Its people like Odegaard, Silva etc who all have 9's for key skills in one on one matchups. For example:

From the kickoff the ball is passed to ODEGAARD who sees BERNARDO and GUNDOGAN moving forward, then doesnt have an opening so turns and plays it to GUNDOGAN who knocks the ball accurately short to BERNARDO who is effortlessly dispossessed in a flash by  DEST who dribbles out of midfield into attack, then on the edge of the box, knocks a short easy ball to VALVERDE who is unluckily dispossessed by PHILLIPS


My assumption would be both of these challenges would be unluckily tackled given I am presuming Silva and Dest have 9's and Phillips and Valvere do?

Just trying to work out everything here with my
Same here, tackles and stamina oddities.
From chatting to Paul the stamina is all sorted - it was just wrong on that turn sheets so should now all be on high stamina

Also talked to Paul about the tackles and effortlessly and easily - essentially a 50:50 tackle with 2 players of equal skills can be shown as easily or effortlessly…
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Ben@Plymouth wrote:
Dave@Villa wrote:
Ben@Plymouth wrote:
Thanks Paul.

Just a quick question - as I digest my turn – in my Plymouth games I lost a lot of tackles either easily or effortlessly despite the players having 9 TS. In terms of reading the match report, does that mean that essentially there is something going on which is reducing the players' TS to below 9?

Its people like Odegaard, Silva etc who all have 9's for key skills in one on one matchups. For example:

From the kickoff the ball is passed to ODEGAARD who sees BERNARDO and GUNDOGAN moving forward, then doesnt have an opening so turns and plays it to GUNDOGAN who knocks the ball accurately short to BERNARDO who is effortlessly dispossessed in a flash by  DEST who dribbles out of midfield into attack, then on the edge of the box, knocks a short easy ball to VALVERDE who is unluckily dispossessed by PHILLIPS


My assumption would be both of these challenges would be unluckily tackled given I am presuming Silva and Dest have 9's and Phillips and Valvere do?

Just trying to work out everything here with my
Same here, tackles and stamina oddities.
From chatting to Paul the stamina is all sorted - it was just wrong on that turn sheets so should now all be on high stamina

Also talked to Paul about the tackles and effortlessly and easily - essentially a 50:50 tackle with 2 players of equal skills can be shown as easily or effortlessly…

I will improve the wording before next week.
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Fair enough, the tackles thing just seemed to be happening ALOT in the league game...ie much more than normal...
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